Flat Out Bullshit

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Real Tesla quotes. Many flat Earthers are making up quotes and attributing them to Tesla and others. Image slide by Derek Gee.

The flat Earth theory falls flat.

Updated July 2016: I added some new embedded videos and links to videos. This will probably be the last update to this page, I may add a video here and there from time to time if one really stands out to me. I’m done with this topic and I will not address it at all from this point on.

If you read through this page and watch the videos I really don’t see how you can walk away and still think the Earth is flat. Unless you have so much time invested in flat Earth conjecture that you can’t admit you’re wrong. I don’t mince words in my article or commentary so excuse the bluntness, I consider this topic a form of cancer circulating in the truth movement and elsewhere.

 The flat Earth theory is part of the common core curriculum.  lol…~TS

By TS | A Sweet Dose of Reality

The Psyop

Being open minded and open to theories I read a bunch of flat Earth articles and watched numerous videos on the topic and walked away not convinced of any of it. Out of all the theories I have heard and read about over the years the flat Earth theory is one of the most ridiculous. The two names among others you will see popping up over and over in relation to this topic is.. Eric Dubay and Mark Sargent, both of which in my opinion are pseudo-philosophical babbling morons. And the people who interview them, who don’t challenge them, who don’t ask serious questions and throw out softball questions and play into their tripe are also in my opinion..morons.

I’m not going to waste too much of my energy discussing this and this will be the only post ever mentioning it on this site, but needless to say I think the entire flat Earth movement is a distraction and I think much of it is orchestrated. Although a old theory I suspect the current push of it is a psyop involving the manipulation of beliefs in the “truth movement” or among “conspiracy theorists” to see how far certain groups of people can be steered in various directions and get wrapped up and diverted by it. No, the CIA, the RAND corporation, Tavistock Institute and other organizations and agencies were never involved in that type of stuff. It’s also a beautiful way to attempt to devalue and divide the truther demographic in an attempt to make a rather effective movement look like a joke…”Oh he’s a conspiracy theorist and get this..he thinks the is Earth flat”…all serious conversation or consideration of varying points of view ends for many people right there as soon as they hear those labels thrown out. To me it’s obvious what is going on but others are falling into this hook, line, and sinker. They’re playing on people’s lack of scientific knowledge, history, or even common sense to propagate an idea which in turn will make the people who buy into it look like idiots and not be taken seriously by even other open minded people. How do they bypass science? Just say all science is fake, everything is fake, but the flat Earth is real. Right. I know some dubious things go on in mainstream science, I’m not naive, but when it comes to the Earth being a sphere and experiments being done to prove that you can go back thousands of years to Eratosthenes of Greece.. for one example. But of course, I’m sure somebody will say he was bogus as where his experiments. But a yoga instructor sitting in a lotus position in Thailand with in my opinion no proof of anything has everybody beat, he has it all figured out, everything else is fake, but he and the flat Earth theory are the real deal, believe in him and the theory. Seems cultish to me, go figure. Plus, for extra drama, certain flat Earthers claim to have received death threats from Masonic groups (plays eerie violin tune), but they keep uploading videos to Youtube, have Facebook pages, websites, do interviews, do podcasts, they keep rolling along.

I see people getting wrapped up in this rubbish and posting comments and debating this on websites while we have a growing police state, militarization of the police, ever growing surveillance, continual wars, famine, a spiraling economy, chemicals in our food, chemicals in our air, eugenics, dwindling civil liberties, dark occultists in government and other areas, a garbage education (indoctrination) system, big pharma, corrupt banking system, and people walking around like zombies, the list goes on and on and on.

It’s All Fake.

Every piece of evidence that contradicts the idea of the Earth being flat is deemed “fake” or a “hoax” by the flat Earth community. They apply round Earth examples and principles to a flat Earth model and try to force it to work. They try to force a square peg into a round hole. Ship hulls or the bottom of buildings on the coast disappearing or not visible over the horizon is “perspective”, not because the Earth is round. All NASA footage is fake, except the ones where they say that NASA or some other organization is using a fish eye lense while filming in orbit. Is all NASA or other footage filmed in orbit fake or not? Make up your mind. NASA didn’t invent the globular Earth model, get past it. Or they show footage of somebody quickly zooming in on a boat on the water that couldn’t be seen with the naked eye and say that’s proof there’s no curvature of the Earth. In those same clips you see other larger boats or buildings that are past the horizon which are behind the boat they zoomed in on and you can’t see the hulls or the bottom half of the buildings on the other shoreline. But of course the camera guy quickly pans right past all of that. There’s also clips where they zoom in on a particular boat and you obviously can’t see all of the hull but they’re telling you that you can. So now you’re telling me what my eyes are plainly seeing in a video is not so. There’s even clowns who show footage shot in orbit and say the horizon is flat when clearly there’s a curve, even when you put a straight edge on the computer screen or use Adobe Photoshop or other program to put a straight edge across it. Gas-lighting anyone? They think the UN flag is a representation of the actual flat Earth. Stunning. There’s theories that flag is based on a map from the 1700’s. How about they wanted a way to show the continents on a spherical object in a 2D space so they can create a map projection or a emblem? How about maps in general? They’re flat. Does that mean maps represent a flat Earth? Should people have carried a globe back in the day for navigation purposes?

Also a spinning Earth and flight times is a big deal for them as well. Throw a ball back and forth between point A and B on a platform (train, plane, bus, Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade float.. take your pick) moving at a steady speed. Guess what the ball doesn’t arrive at either point any faster. Bounce a ball say on a moving bus, the landing spot doesn’t get displaced.

And as stated in a response from somebody on stack exchange:

“During the flight, you need to get up to use the restroom. There’s one 10 rows in front of you, and another 10 rows behind you. Does it take longer to walk to the one that’s moving away from you at 600 mph than the one that’s moving towards you at 600 mph?

No, because you’re moving at 600 mph right along with it — in the ground-based frame of reference. In the frame of reference of the airplane, everything is stationary.

Similarly, the airplane is already moving along with the surface of the Earth before it takes off. The rotation of the Earth has no direct significant effect on flight times in either direction.”

These are very simple examples that can be reproduced and people don’t ask themselves why this is so. I’m not a math genius or a scientist but if you visit a few decent science forums or read some books you start to grasp how it works. Start with Newton’s first law. Just because you may not understand it doesn’t mean it’s magic or bullshit. I wasn’t even going to put this post up but I’m so sick and tired of seeing this hokum show up on the web. As for NASA, believe me, I do think they doctor photos and footage but not because the Earth is flat. I also don’t think all NASA footage is fake.

One more thing I want to add to this section, It’s not the case that other researchers or people in general can’t “grasp” the flat Earth theory, it’s a case of flat Earthers not providing any facts or proof to take the theory seriously. Perspective isn’t truth. And it’s a case of other people actually knowing something about history, astronomy, math, and physics and knowing when they’re being fed nonsense. Everything flat Earthers have provided as proofs are either inaccurate or can easily be debunked, and have been, even in the YouTube comments section under their own videos. But the video creator (or channel owner) either deletes the comments, doesn’t respond at all to those comments, or the video creator’s fan base carries out a belligerent flurry of attacks on the person who dared to provide a comment that made the video creator look like a fool and highlight his/her ignorance. But they never refute the comment. I have seen this pattern of events play out over and over on several prominent flat Earther channels. Many of these people can’t even calculate the curvature of the Earth correctly in their own videos and yet they criticize astronomers, physicists, scientists, and mathematicians.

Domes and Holograms.

Then we have people who think there’s a dome over the flat Earth…and say stuff like meteors can be rocks shot out of a railgun into the atmosphere that come back down and used for “effect”…as to make us think they’re really coming from space. Erupting volcanoes are caused by underground machines or pumps. The precession of the equinoxes is a holographic projection on the dome. The stars and other planets, except the moon, are holographic projections on the dome. The sun is a “focused” spotlight that moves across the sky and the flat Earth is shaped like a roulette wheel which is why the sun appears to set below the horizon. Man made satellites don’t exist (even though amateur astronomers film them and take pictures of them), it goes on and on, basically the idea is we live in a giant theme park ala Universal Studios Florida. Really? I interviewed a relatively well known (at least to those who are into this topic) flat Earther via Skype and fortunately my camera was off because I couldn’t keep a straight face when I asked serious questions and got the responses listed above. I eventually just laid back and was entertained, I give the guy credit, he was all in. I should have said I thought the Earth was shaped like a pyramid and just throw a bunch of moronic examples and answers as to why I thought that and see if it stuck. We could have went back and forth debating it..It’s flat, no it’s a pyramid, no it’s flat, it’s a pyramid.

The Creator.

I still never heard a solid reason as to why the elite would want to push the globe model. One weak reason I heard was because they’re trying to hide the fact that there’s a creator. If people know we live on a flat Earth with a wall around it and a dome over it we would all know for sure that somebody created this place and we’re being watched..and we would all sit around with our thumbs up our ass. Or by not making the Earth the center of the universe the Masons are attempting to take god out of the equation and downplay human existence while at the same time promoting themselves as gods and pushing materialism and nihilism. What? For starters, the organized flat Earth movement itself, which dates back to the 16th century, is steeped in Freemasonary. Secondly, the globe Earth bunch are doing a miserable job of getting people away from thinking there’s a god. People have fought over religion for a long time. I think many logical reasonable people believe in intelligent design and that somebody, a higher intelligence, something was involved in the development or at least the progression of the human race and our planet and everything isn’t just random acts… and they believe in universal law. There’s obviously people who don’t believe there’s a god, they don’t believe in objective truth, they believe in nothing, stuff just happens just to happen, you exist to survive. To each his or her own, I look out my window and I personally believe there’s a creator or creators. Some people need to think the Earth is flat and there’s a dome over it to believe that, or think other people need to think that to believe there’s a creator, fine, but please, take your bullshit horse and pony show elsewhere. It’s insulting to the people involved in the real movement to wake people up.

The Videos

There’s about 30 embedded videos at this point. I probably won’t embed more because I don’t want to slow down the page loading time. So I may even cut down on the embedded videos and just add them as links to the bottom of the page. So in the future if some embedded videos get taken off, look at the links section at the bottom of the page.

3D animation of the flat Earth model demonstrating how it doesn’t work…at all. He has the sun circling above the equator throughout the simulations at a diameter of 12,500 miles. This demonstrates how ridiculous the sun in a flat Earth model would look from the ground. You would always see it.

“In the summer time at Scott Base the sun is above the horizon for 4 months, from roughly the end of the third week of October until the end of the third week of February. This shows the movement of the sun over a full 24 hour period near the peak of summer.


Camera was set to take a photo once every one minute and one second (so that the second hand would be moving). Lens was set on f22 to get enough depth of field to have the watch and horizon both in focus. A modified Orion equatorial telescope mount was used to track the sun. Camera and tracking powered by solar panel and batteries.”

I can hear it already, some people will watch this 24 hour sun clip and say… “It’s all fake man, it’s all composites”..but as usual they can’t prove shit.

By the way here’s the link to the actual Antarctic Treaty, yes you can actually read it for yourself. You don’t have to listen to some asshole on YouTube lie about what’s in it. Also, flat Earthers will mention James Clark Ross and his voyages to the Antarctic. What they don’t mention is that it’s considered by more than a few people, including other explorers, that portions of Ross’s work is inaccurate and that he employed the use of “creative geography” when describing the Arctic and Anarctic. There’s been a lot of Antarctic expeditions since his time, read up on Roald Amundsen.

Below commentary by TS. Added December 2015, updated January 2016.

So here we have a video of a amateur rocket launch and the video has been sitting on YouTube since 2011. From what I understand there’s no fish eye lense being used in this footage. At 121,000 feet you see a slight but obvious curvature, it clears up towards the end, pause at 1:47 if you want. The Earth’s radius is 3,959 miles, this rocket is about 22.9 miles up. The further up you go the more surface area you see the more pronounced the curvature will be to your naked eye, not that complicated of a concept.

Flat Earthers will watch this and pretend there’s no curvature or try to tell you there’s no curvature. Actually I didn’t see many of them commenting in the comments section on YouTube under this video, they scattered like roaches. Really, where do you go with the flat Earth hypothesis (it really isn’t a theory) after you watch this clip? Bullshit yourself some more? Flat Earthers sit around making up facts, figures, distances, and put forth nothing as evidence. The same thing they accuse NASA and scientists of doing. Again, I’m not a huge fan of NASA myself, but I’m also not a fan of people sitting in their basement pointing to footage uploaded by somebody on YouTube supposedly showing a transparent moon. Now, that’s trustworthy. If it’s transparent how come everybody doesn’t see or film that same effect?  The same goes for Venus. 😉 And this beauty…”The Northern Star never moves”..really? Polaris hasn’t been there forever, it was regarded as the pole star starting around the twelfth century, and near the pole for possibly 1,500 years. The Greeks never mentioned it, particularly Pytheas, it is said he described the North Celestial Pole as empty in his sky map. Over the course of 25,800 years (the precession of the Equinoxes) different bright stars become the North Star. When there’s isn’t a bright star present over the course of that time there’s no North Star. Presently the third star in the handle of the Big Dipper is the North Star. And the reason you cannot see it if you’re south of the equator is..drum roll.. because you’re on a sphere..called Earth.

One more beauty that some people mention in their videos…”Watch this NASA clip you can see through the Earth and see stars behind it, it’s a layer”. Ah no, it’s damage to the digital sensor in a prosumer grade (which aren’t shielded) cameras caused by high energy particles, in other words..damage from radiation in the form of bad pixels. There’s other clips filmed inside the space station where you see the same white dots. That’s a layer too right? Long exposure to radiation is a health issue as well which is why they frequently rotate the crews and take other measures to mitigate the effects. They supposedly spend billions upon billions of dollars to fake space footage by using CGI, layers and water tanks but their editors forget to edit out bubbles, forget to add stars, and they fuck up the layers in their video editing program, “oops, missed that one Louie, get me a diet coke”. In reality the flat Earth arena boils down to one group (group A) of people involved in a psyop who are purposely deceiving people, and another group (group B) of people who call themselves “researchers” who think they’re a lot smarter than they really are who really aren’t questioning anything, if they were they would be seriously questioning the information presented in the flat Earth hypothesis. Instead they’re making assertion after assertion based on no research because they’re either too lazy and stupid or they don’t trust any data that contradicts their delusion. They’re parroting what the last guy said or posted in his video. This is how a disinformation campaign works and how a lot of people as a whole pass along information in general. Have a group plant some disinformation and people will latch onto it, believe it, and do the rest of the work to propagate it. The same thing they accuse the “uninformed ball Earthers and unawakened” of doing. It really is quite sad. Finally you have group C who is the uninformed public and/or religious zealots who just don’t know better and believe whatever you tell them or what they think the scriptures tells them but don’t know who the vice president of the U.S. is or think Elvis is still alive.

The flat Earthers keep saying the movement is picking up steam, I think it’s already running out of steam due to most people people being apathetic and not giving a shit and because some other people are knowledgeable enough to know it’s garbage. I’ve seen the view counts on several well known FE accounts drop over the last several months.

I’ve been researching conspiracies and the occult for a long time and I consider myself very much awake, others may not think I am, that’s fine. One thing I learned over the years, once you go down the road of thinking everything in life is a sham, you have a serious problem and you’re wide open to manipulation and mind control and for some it leads to solipsism. Have fun with that.

January 2016: Followup comment:

One prominent flat Earther who’s dying for anybody to respect him and makes fun of people like David Icke, Alex Jones, Max Igan and others who actually accomplished something in their lives, also likes to whine that his website and YouTube accounts are being censored, infiltrated and shut down because he’s exposing the truth about the flat Earth and the Jews. If you think for one second that I believe what he says and this is really the reason why his sites and YouTube accounts were supposedly “taken down” then I’m Santa Claus. I think this is also orchestrated and an attempt for him to gain more attention and to appear as a martyr thus lending credence to his material. “He has to be right, look what they’re doing to him”. Yeah, o.k…and by the way he’s brought nothing new to the table as far as exposing Zionism. He complains about receiving threats and being harassed but he keeps uploading new videos to the same YouTube account with his name on it that he’s had for six years. Please. How come that account wasn’t taken down? I think I know, because his “name” is on it, taking that down may negatively affect the psyop and book sales. Just my opinion of course.

Also, people involved in a disinfo operation will routinely call other people involved in the same operation shills and ridicule each other. Or they may say everything is being infiltrated by other shills, they love the word “shill” and often don’t use it in the proper context. They play off each other and this makes the operation appear more organic to the general public. In order to spot a prominent psyop operative my rule of thumb is watch the person who is throwing the most shit toward other people who are talking about the same topic. That person may be trying to distance themself from the others or even some of their own work because the disinformation campaign or message itself is getting too many holes punched in it, diluted, or there’s nowhere else to go with it. That person wants to retain some perceived credibility for any possible future endeavors and also wants to maintain some form of control over their agenda, so he or she isolates themself and deals with fewer people.

Self preservation, a major Satanic tenet.

It’s a chess game and if you know what to look for it’s not hard to figure it out.

The above three videos, The Earth is Flat, Rory Cooper says so! Part 1 and 2, and Revisting the Pole Stars Conundrum are excellent. The second video ” The Horizon Problem” in particular obliterates the made up “horizon always at eye level” assertion and other various bogus claims. Seems like Rory Cooper was the 2014 FE guy,  I noticed many of the 2015 FE proponents reused his horseshit work. I guess Rory couldn’t get the psyop off the ground effectively in 2014 so the torch was passed to others. I won’t name names but some of them are selling books and making money (yes, evil masonic money) on the flat Earth nonsense express while they can.

Please read the responses pertaining to these above three videos in the comments sections on Youtube from Mahrai Ziller, the creator of the above three videos. Several flat Earthers threw everything they had at Mahrai and he wiped the floor with all of them. He’s not a dumb guy. Here’s another another excellent video by Mahrai that I highly recommend watching: The Fake Clouds in Sky Addendum.

By CoolHardLogic

Part one in a series taking a wry look at the idiotic belief that the Earth is flat, and how that stacks up against reality. This part takes a look at some fundamental geometric problems with flattards’ favourite “map”, an Azimuthal Equidistant Projection.

By CoolHardLogic

Part two in a series taking a wry look at the idiotic belief that the Earth is flat, and how that stacks up against reality. This part looks skyward as we consider basic observations of the stars, and find out where the Sun would be if it were a flying spotlight.

Guidance: Contains some mild language within a comedy context.

By CoolHardLogic

CORRECTION: At 5:56 the slide states the equinoxes are in June and December. This should of course say March and September! D’oh!

Part three in a series taking a wry look at the idiotic belief that the Earth is flat, and how that stacks up against reality. This part continues our investigation of the Flattard Flying Spotlight, and examines the implications of the Solstices for the inhabitants of Flattardia.

This is a candid conversation between Reds Rhetoric and Jeran Campanella aka Jeranism. I like the fact it’s not moderated. In all honesty in the past I wasn’t sure if Jeran was a operative in the flat Earth Psyop, or just a guy who actually believed other flat Earther’s horseshit and really thought they were onto something. The fact that he agreed to talk to Red in the first place and after listening to this conversation I think Jeran is the latter, a person from “group B” as I explained earlier in my commentary above. I think he’s a guy who bought into the garbage other people were spewing and he perpetuates it but can’t explain his points well. I’m not saying the guy doesn’t have his own opinions and questions about some things, he’s just all over the map and not cohesive in his explanations in my opinion. One thing that sticks out to me with Jeran’s videos is that he always sounds tentative when he talks about this stuff and he just straight out gets his facts and figures wrong and just keeps rolling with it, even when people like Red and others very clearly disprove his material. Red pretty much tied him up in knots throughout this conversation. I will give him points for talking to Red directly and I can guarantee you will never see other prominent names in flat Earth arena talk directly to Red or others like him. A live debate where they would get torn apart would be a problem for them, the psyop agenda, and possibly hurt their income, whether it’s from selling books or from other sources. Jeran did admit in this video that he does make money from his YouTube videos, and he actually admits that’s he’s been wrong many times in his videos.

I don’t agree with everything Red says, but I agree with him that the Earth is a sphere and we’ve been into space and that we have satellites in orbit around the Earth, and Jaren can’t prove otherwise.

Update: It seems Jeranism won’t enter a structured debate with Red, I wonder why. Maybe because he’ll lose…again. I was shocked he did the first one with Red. He’s got nothing to bring to the table, like the rest of the flat Earthers. Most flat Earthers like to do interviews with like minded morons who nod and agree with all of the bullshit pouring out of each others mouths and say shit like “we live in a cartoon world, the ISS doesn’t exist, everything in orbit is fake, it’s all a hoax”. Of course they can’t prove any of that, and will never be able to prove any of that because it’s bullshit, but it in their feeble minds it makes them part of a cool club that has the inside scoop on the truth. Poor delusional bastards.

Jeranism, no BALLS? (The final callout for Debate)

Jeranism- NO BALLS! (Confirmed)

The above two videos, Oblate Spherical Earth Modeled by the Builders of The Great Pyramid part 1 and 2, are for the people who think or try to push the crap that nobody thought the Earth was round prior to 500 hundred years ago. Wrong..and the Egyptians weren’t the only ones who knew. Watch this video as well dumb dumbs. It’s also dedicated to the people who think math is irrelevant. Wrong. Learn history and learn something about sacred geometry. Do something besides making things up.

I highly recommend watching the rest of the videos at fiveredpears YouTube page and checking out the below links.

Below commentary by TS. Added January 2016.

One note about NASA and the Apollo missions. Some people think they were faked some don’t think they were faked. I keep hearing via emails and elsewhere the tired “I just don’t understand how other truthers who have doubts or don’t believe we went to the moon don’t embrace the flat Earth model, I just don’t get it, ah, um, …”..or this one..”How do people who don’t think we went to the moon think we ever went into space at all”… As they’re doing their soft spoken flat Earth YouTube shows using Skype, a technology that utilizes satellites that they say doesn’t exist. Guess what? You can actually have some doubts about the Apollo missions and other topics and still not think the Earth is flat. There actually is other more credible reasons why the Apollo missions may have been faked. Do some research on it. Flat Earther’s don’t have a monopoly on the fake Apollo moon missions theory, although they’re trying to in order to make one synonymous with the other, a disinformation tactic. Believe or not, it’s not all or nothing, as much as you want it to be. But flat Earthers want to squash those other reasons and make the the entire deal about them and their conjecture. Let me make this blunt, I’m speaking directly to the flat Earthers, you’ve brought nothing to the table that’s remotely credible. You’ve convinced yourselves you have evidence and you do your podcasts bullshitting amongst yourselves that you have evidence, but no, you really don’t. Saying everything that contradicts the existence of a flat Earth is fake, and can’t prove it’s fake, is not evidence. Making shit up and providing false facts, figures and distances is not proof. You still have nothing and you’re about one year into the latest wave of the FE psyop. The problem is flat Earthers are so entrenched in their delusions that it irritates them when other people don’t go down the bottomless pit with them. I think there’s some sort of psychosis that exists among flat Earthers where they think their conjecture should obliterate any other point of view, theory, or fact. Very sad.

As for me, I think we went to the moon but not with the technology you saw on T.V.. There’s a lot of different viewpoints on this topic and I’m not going to get into a battle of conspiracy theories. Let’s just say I think the U.S., specifically black budget programs, and other countries have technology that is far beyond the standard stuff.  Alien technology or ours, either way there’s been a lot of credible amateur photos and film footage taken of UFOs going back 50 + years. Nobody has seen one photo of a flat Earth, the mighty ice wall, or a magical magnetic blue mountain. I won’t get into advanced technology or ancient history and recorded accounts of possible alien interaction with humans on this page, that is another topic for another article.

In the over 40 years I’ve been on this Earth I’ve never been distracted by NASA or the space program. When’s the last time you said “I have to watch that rocket launch today and maybe watch some ISS footage”. Most people don’t pay attention to NASA or the space program and never have. The only people repeatedly bringing up NASA and telling me it’s a distraction are the flat Earthers who obsess over it and try to push their own distraction. NASA is not much of a distraction when it doesn’t mean a hill of shit to most people in their life. I’m not knocking the people who are really into NASA, I’m just pointing out that the common person doesn’t walk around thinking or talking about rocket launches, satellites, or the ISS, they couldn’t care less about any of it.

Some people try to seal the deal with their “everything is fake argument” by saying NASA is full of Freemasons and occultists. I know about NASA’s ties to Freemasonry and the occult. I know about Jack Parsons and Crowley. You think NASA is unique in that aspect and that’s proof that everything is fake? The founding fathers of America were Freemasons and occultists. That’s mainstream information. Occultists are in prominent positions throughout governments, business, military, banking, technology, science, education, entertainment, media, etc. There’s light and dark, positive and negative aspects in everybody and that goes for Freemasons and occultists. The elite, Black Nobility, Illuminati, dark occultists, black magicians, dark Luciferians, the evil cabal, whatever you want to call them or claim they are, who are driving the world into the shitter, are supposedly suppressing zero point energy devices and anti-gravity propulsion systems, supposedly have directed energy weapons, advanced biological weapons, animal-human hybrids, nano technology that binds with your DNA and alters it (smart dust), etc..they have all that but they can’t launch a rocket into space? Even with the known technology we have you think they can’t get something into orbit? Seriously? Also, I love people who don’t understand why rockets going into orbit have a angled trajectory and say math and science has given us nothing, but then say how great Tesla and German scientists (rockets anyone?) were, and all the while they’re using a cell phone, using a computer, surfing the internet, driving a car (outdated combustion engines), flying in a plane, using electricity, watching T.V., streaming movies, using Skype, use appliances, taking medicine (not a good thing in some cases), getting an x-ray or MRI done, getting surgical procedures done, playing an instrument, playing a video game, listening to the radio, using wireless technology, sending data over networks, fiber optics, playing CDs, DVDs, the list goes on and on and on. Science and especially math ties into all of that. I don’t like a lot of electronic gadgets, I don’t like electromagnetic pollution, and I think advanced technology is being suppressed and/or used for nefarious reasons but please give it a break. The only person I want to hear say that science and math has given them nothing is the person living in the fucking woods rubbing two sticks together to start a fire.

More Videos

I got tired of embedding videos, here’s several more along with my commentary. Enjoy.

The Incredible shrinking sun

Below commentary by TS.

In a very sad display of desperateness flat Earthers are now resorting to putting up obviously fake videos of the sun shrinking to the size of a pea when it sets. As to make it look like it’s moving away and not really setting. Really? The one I saw wasn’t even a good fake. I won’t be linking to it because I won’t link to a flat Earther’s YouTube account from this site, ever. You can find it though, the channel pumps out disinformation. It was so bad I actually almost spit my iced tea out onto my keyboard because I was drinking and laughing at the same time. I’m also familiar with video editing so it was easy for me to pinpoint the other mistakes in the video, besides the obvious, the sun doesn’t shrink at sunset. How come everybody doesn’t see or film the sun shrinking? Because it’s…bullshit.  I’ve watched the sun set from my backyard and other locations hundreds if not thousands of times throughout my life, I have never seen it shrink to a size of a pea, ever. Try harder next time. Let me not give them ideas, they’ll just flood YouTube with fake sunset videos. You people are too much.

Below are real sunset videos among many you can find. Look for ones uploaded prior to 2014 or even earlier than that to be safe, before the latest wave of the FE psyop was started. Remember that glare is a factor when filming the sun or taking a photo of it, you don’t factor in sun glare when calculating it’s size which is why you use a solar filter when taking a photo or video of it, and more importantly to protect your eyes. The first three videos below don’t appear to have used a solar filter. I will post more real time lapse sunset videos when I get time.

A flat Earther will say..”The SpaceX landing is all CGI and actors, it’s fake and there’s no amateur footage of it”.

And… here’s amateur footage of the SpaceX landing. I’m sure some flat Earther will say this footage is faked as well, but as usual they can’t prove shit. Please notice the pattern though folks, if you provide evidence that contradicts a flat Earther’s belief they call it a fake or a hoax which is very convenient and closed minded as well. No evidence will ever be acceptable to the people directly involved in the flat Earth psyop because contrary to what they preach, exposing the truth is not what they want. They want a open ended distraction that keeps rolling and keeps people digging in holes while a surveillance state is fully implemented and your freedoms are stripped away…and if certain people can make money while doing so, even better. Wake up and see this for what it is people.

Good series of videos (next three links) debunking Eric Dubay’s “200 proofs” garbage. The guy skips around a bit but I think he’ll eventually cover the rest but at this point it would be redundant anyway, they’ve been addressed on this page and elsewhere.

Update: I found a site that debunks all 200 of Eric Dubay “proofs”:

200 Proofs Earth is not flat


Max Igaan, he seems like a down to Earth guy and although he tries to be diplomatic with the flat Earthers I get the feeling he also thinks the whole thing is bullshit. The one thing I disagree with in the first video is that I don’t think there’s any compelling information put forth by flat Earthers. Nothing.

The three videos below are about Santos Bonacci who in my personal view decided to go “full retard” recently. I used to like some of his work, specifically the stuff dealing with astrotheology.  So we have the pre-jail Santos and the post jail Santos who is now a flat Earther. I know, I know, I understand, after many years of researching and teaching maritime law, astronomy and astrotheology he woke up and realized the real truth while sitting in jail and he just had to get out there and talk non-stop about the flat Earth and get the information out there. People need to know. Let me guess, he’s catching flack and people are just giving him so much shit because he’s exposing the truth, people who don’t get the flat Earth just aren’t that intelligent, they’re not thinking out of the box, blah, blah, blah…. same script the Alex Jones is Bill Hicks guy reads from. I’m not saying Santos was “tampered” with or under mind control, no, but there could be other motivating factors in play for him to talk about this other than wanting to get the so called “truth” out. Who knows. He may very well really believe the shit he’s spewing now and that would be very sad. A variable speed sun, lol. Another researcher down the shitter for me. Adios Santos.

Compasses and calculating the Earth’s curvature is discussed in the below two videos below.

A word about gravity and the Big Bang Theory. Flat Earthers will say there’s no gravity, even though they haven’t proved that, and therefore the Big Bang Theory is false, I certainly have my doubts about the Big Bang Theory as do many people, including mainstream scientists..it is after all called the Big Bang Theory. I hear this a lot from flat Earthers,”If there’s no Big Bang then the Earth is flat”. And… that’s bullshit, that’s just people making shit up again, it’s a catch phrase. Here’s my take on this, however the universe was created, spherical planets were created during the process, period. Whatever force you think is holding our feet to the ground it’s holding our feet down on a spherical planet. You can theorize all you want and speculate all you want about how the universe was created and what forces were and are involved, I don’t care, the Earth is a spherical globe, just like the other planets in our solar system. Mainstream science, including NASA, has admitted for many years that electromagnetism comes into play. Anyway here’s two excellent videos about the electric universe theory. For the record Robert Otey is not a flat Earther in any way shape or form.

The rest of the videos in no specific order.

Almost forgot, for the simpletons who think railroad tracks prove that the Earth is flat. First, the steel they use is very flexible which works well for long lengths, secondly they come in different lengths, thirdly they weld or bolt sections together. Back in the day they would also hammer sections into shape, today they use machinery to do a multitude of tasks. I’m not a railroad expert but it took about fifteen minutes of reading to understand the process of laying track and how it’s curved. Some people would rather waste 45 minutes watching a garbage flat Earth video telling you how train tracks would go into the sky on a curved Earth. Do some more research on your own because frankly there’s already too much hand holding on this page and too much simple stuff explained for people with low IQs. It’s tiresome.

I’ve included a very good post found on YouTube from David Ridlen , the guy that certain flat Earthers like to call a NASA shill, but they can’t refute any of the points he makes in his comments, all they can say is everything he presents as evidence is fake.

YouTube post by David Ridlen:

+JETiKnightNY  “are you part of the flat earth conspiracy or are you a professional investigator with credentials?”

I am not trying to expose a conspiracy.  But as a professional visual FX artist of 20 years, I regularly debunk hoaxed videos and photos regarding paranormal and pop conspiracy claims.  I am interested in exposing charlatans and arrogant ignorance.

” Please, provide some verifiable evidence for me such as a photo (not image) of the ball earth”

Here are 781 hi-rez, 4K unprocessed, photos of whole, spherical Earth, dating back to 1968, before the advent of photoreal CGI- http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/SearchPhotos/ShowQueryResults-CoolIris.pl?results=EarthDisc

72 other pics of Earth, including from Japanese, Chinese and Indian space agencies- http://www.planetary.org/multimedia/space-images/index.jsp?keywords=pics-of-earth-by-planetary-missions

8,400 high rez, 4K Apollo photos now available on Flickr- https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/albums

“where is your verifiable evidence that we live on a ball? ”

See my other vids-



1.  Two Celestial Poles.  We see different constellations rotating in opposite directions, around two opposite poles.  How can people in the southern hemisphere essentially stand in a circle with their backs to each other, and all be facing the same southern constellation?  Illustration- https://app.box.com/shared/static/zqx59oz7be9wb4rd1npox4zwxs00gkod.jpg

Anyone in the Southern Hemisphere may observe how stars rotate clockwise around the South Celestial Pole, where Polaris, Ursa Minor, Ursa Major, and Cassiopeia are absenthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpaDKH9LOsc  while anyone in the Northern Hemispshere sees stars rotating counter-clockwise around the North Celestial Pole, where Crux, Centaurus, and Carina are absenthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDdAIr25RW4  On flat Earth, it is geometrically impossible to see these two completely different skies, rotating in opposing directions around two different poles.

Google “star trails” to see thousands of photo and video examples from around the world, and the star rotation direction always corresponds with the polar hemisphere.   From the Equator, you can see stars rotating simultaneously around both, opposite poles.  Here is a 360 degree panoramic timelapse showing stars simultaneously rotating clockwise and counter-clockwise-  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azJaOQAGTJo#t=87

On flat Earth, there is no East, West, or North horizon. No matter which direction you look to the horizon on flat Earth, you are always inexplicably looking due South.  So how can everyone in the Southern Hemisphere look due South, in any direction for 360 degrees, yet they all see the same stars rotating clockwise around the South Celestial Pole.

2.  Sun below clouds.  If the Sun remains circling 3,000 miles above a flat Equator then how can the setting/rising Sun possibly illuminate only the bottom underside of cumulus clouds below 6,000 feet.


–  http://thewatermargin.com/Images/Spain/Scenic/2013/Sunrise-6.jpg


Mountain shadows- http://whenonearth.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/mount-rainier-shadow-washington-woe1.jpeg




3.  No flat earth map.     If Earth is actually 2-dimensional geometry, then well-established geographical dimensions should appear proportionately correct on a 2-dimensional map.  If you take an overhead, perpendicular picture of a pizza, it will look exactly like the pizza.  But the flat Earth map grossly distorts geography, inexplicably stretching continents to fit.  http://i.huffpost.com/gen/837629/images/o-FLAT-EARTH-facebook.jpg  Russia is known to be 6,000 miles long, and Australia is about 2,500 miles long, but on the flat map, Australia is as large as Russia!?  It is geometrically impossible to preserve known dimensions because Earth is a sphere, and projecting an accurate map is like trying to get a deflated basketball to lay flat with the entire skin facing up.  If Earth were a pizza, it should be easy.     Here is how a flat Earth map appears with continental dimensions preserved- https://wharferj.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/dymaxion-map-large1.png

4.  Flight durations.  Even a former flat Earth advocate admits Earth cant be flat due to polar flights from Johannesburg to Sydney travel time of 12 hours- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjU3u54ihXM and he commendably deleted all his flat Earth vids.

The same flight distance on flat Earth would take FIVE times longer-   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myBcAUAtF34

non stop flight from sydney to buenos aires in 14 hours-  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMoFPMytX2g

Or this one- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q08EXpSYWXQ

Pilot explaining the significance of the Transpolar flight from the airline who  pioneered in Southern transpolar route.-  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqWmjtbGs-M

5.  Earth bulge.  Anyone may observe Earth curvature at sea level depthwise (going away from you) by viewing thru a telephoto/zoom because it greatly flattens depth.  It is why Toronto appears hundreds of feet below sea level from across Lake Ontario-  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1CJZx4llto

Chicago appears hundreds of feet below Lake Michigan- https://app.box.com/shared/static/ewk103gjd9zha7nd5g12nn4o2bi07ufn.gif

The CN Tower appears sunk over 600 feet below sea level- https://app.box.com/shared/static/h2qzdymf2nmnwwdl2zci4sbi1mdiek3m.gif

For thousands of years, humans have observed that all ships sailing over horizon always disappear bottom first – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNGorPyX9OQ

Uncut example- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70_KxONGtHs

6.  The ice wall of doom!   Anyone may book a flight to or over Antarctica, just as thousands of people do annually.

A380 takes the polar route to Sydney.    http://videos.airbus.com/video/iLyROoafIlXu.html “The crew takes in spectacular views of Antarctica”

Antarctica tourism and South Pole flightshttp://www.adventure-network.com/

Antarctica flights- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZVFan7jL80&feature=youtu.be

Tours in The Antarctic http://www.lonelyplanet.com/antarctica/tours  “over 45 thousand people visited Antarctica during the recent Argentine summer: it’s a seven times growth in the last 16 years. ” (2009)

Discover Antarctica http://www.hurtigruten.com/us/explorer-voyages/antarctica/

Antarctica Voyages- http://www.hollandamerica.com/cruise-destinations/grand-south-voyages-cruise

“A complete circumnavigation, from Incan empires to Brazilian beaches, icy Antarctica to the steamy Amazon — all roundtrip from Ft. Lauderdale aboard ms Prinsendam.”

Best Antarctica Cruises  http://www.cruisecritic.com/articles.cfm?ID=1327

Tourism in Antarcticahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Antarctica Antarctica flights- http://www.antarcticaflights.com.au/

First skiers in Antarctica- http://www.explorersweb.com/polar/news.php?url=south-pole-update_1415554800

U.S. Department of State- Open Skies Treaty- http://www.state.gov/t/avc/trty/102337.htm

“…is one of the most wide-ranging international efforts to date promoting openness and transparency of military forces and activities. ”

Antarctic Treaty System http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctic_Treaty_System  “establishes freedom of scientific investigation and bans military activity on that continent. ”  “in the interests of all mankind that Antarctica shall continue forever to be used exclusively for peaceful purposes and shall not become the scene or object of international discord.”

http://www.usap.gov/jobsAndOpportunities/  the USAP deploys roughly 3,000 people to Antarctica every year to conduct scientific research, or provide support to researchers through the operation and maintenance of the research stations and vessels.

“How can I join a polar research group in Antarctica or the North Pole?”  http://www.quora.com/How-can-I-join-a-polar-research-group-in-Antarctica-or-the-North-Pole

Jobs in Antarctica- http://www.coolantarctica.com/Community/find_a_job_in_antarctica.php

Natl Science Foundation Antarctica Research- https://www.nsf.gov/funding/pgm_summ.jsp?pims_id=5519

7.  Coriolis.  *FIELD ARTILLERY, VOL 6, BALLISTICS AND AMMUNITION* http://www.uscrow.org/downloads/Ammunition-Guides/Ballistics-and-Ammunition.pdf“The next important factor in drift is Coriolis acceleration. … It would be present if the projectile were fired in a vacuum. It does, however, depend on the latitude and gearing of the gun and on its range. Its effect is opposite north and south of the equator. For long range guns it is sometimes almost as great as the gyroscopic effect.”

Marine Corps Manual- Field Artillery Manual Cannon Gunnery- “Deviations From Standard Conditions. – Rotation of the earth.”  http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/docs/fm6-40-ch3.htm

Modern Exterior Ballistics (McCoy, Robert [1999]) a comprehensive text covering the basic free flight dynamics of symmetric projectiles.

Coriolis effect of a 7.62mm Ball M80 Bullet.

500 yards – .6 inches

1000 yards – 2.8 in

1500 yards – 7.6 in

2000 yards – 15.9 in

“The basic principles of ballistic science are developed from a comprehensive definition of the aerodynamic forces that control the flight dynamics of symmetric projectiles. The author carefully starts with the basic vacuum point mass trajectory, adds the effects of drag, discusses the action of winds, simple flat fire approximations, Coriolis effects and concludes with the classic modified point mass trajectories.” http://riflemansjournal.blogspot.com/2011/03/book-review-modern-exterior-ballistics.html

The Paris Gun – “The distance was so far that the Coriolis effect — the rotation of the Earth — was substantial enough to affect trajectory calculations.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Gun

INS for Guided Missile Systemshttp://techdigest.jhuapl.edu/TD/td2804/Bezick.pdf  Pg 2 “Moreover,the desired navigation solution typically is formed relative to a second, rotating Earth-centered Earth-fixed (ECEF) coordinate frame, (ie, je, ke), having angular velocity ie, relative to the inertial frame. If the position vector of the missile, r, over the Earth’s surface is desired (latitude, longitude, and altitude), then a model for the ellipsoidal shape of the Earth’s surface must be used.

Nat Geo Encyclopedia on Coriolis- “Military aircraft and missile-control technology must calculate the Coriolis effect for similar reasons. The target of an air raid could be missed entirely, and innocent people and civilian structures could be damaged. ” http://education.nationalgeographic.com/education/encyclopedia/coriolis-effect/?ar_a=1

From Principles of Guided Missiles and Nuclear Weapons – “The CORIOLIS FORCE must also be compensated for. It is caused by the earth’s rotation, and tends to deflect a missile to the right in the northern hemisphere, and to the left in the southern hemisphere.”  http://archive.hnsa.org/doc/missile/index.htm  “The amount of deviation produced by the coriolis force depends on the latitude, length, and direction of the missile flight. ”

Arms Guide, “Coriolis effect affects everything not firmly attached to the Earth’s surface.” , “the vertical component of the trajectory is called Eötvös Effect. ” – http://thearmsguide.com/5329/external-ballistics-the-coriolis-effect-6-theory-section/

Long Range Shooter  *”Coriolis makes the projectile appear to curve”*  – http://longrangeshooter.com/2008/05/coriolis-effect/

Applied Ballistics, “There are horizontal and vertical components to Coriolis acceleration.”http://www.appliedballisticsllc.com/spindrift.html

Ballistics calculators that incorporate coriolis must be wrong? – at JBM, http://www.jbmballistics.com/ballistics/calculators/calculators.shtml

Gunwerks, lang range ballistics manufacturer and instruction (in my video)- http://www.gunwerks.com/Long-Range-University/Videos/Long-Range-Ballistics-Videos

An airplane’s Inertial Navigation Systems (INS) “must continually correct for a plane’s tendency to drift off course because of Earth’s rotational acceleration, a consequence of the so-called Coriolis force.”  From Inertial Navigation And Flight –  http://science.jrank.org/pages/3581/Inertial-Guidance-Inertial-navigation-flight.html

An FAA guide on coriolis- http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircular.nsf/0/c2df8d9d7471617786256a020078083a/$FILE/AC%2000-6A%20Chap%204-6%20-%20Aviation%20Weather,%201975.pdf

From Newton’s Laws Applied to Navigation – “A firm understanding of four concepts is required to obtain (velocity) from Newton’s Laws: gravity, attitude, Earth-referenced velocity and the Coriolis theorem.”  https://books.google.com/books?id=44aF0_rp49AC&pg=PA15&lpg=PA15&dq=inertial+navigation+system+earth+coriolis&source=bl&ots=KHhbZgZryX&sig=jMWsrDOhIoQK0z2K-orFs5C3lkM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CEgQ6AEwB2oVChMIk-C5qq-ExgIVTFuICh1PogAv#v=onepage&q=inertial%20navigation%20system%20earth%20coriolis&f=false

And from Institude of Flight System Dynamics – “In a sequential process of levelling and gyro compassing the initial orientation could be derived, when the Earth’s rate of rotation can be sufficiently resolved…”  http://www.fsd.mw.tum.de/research/sensors-data-fusion-and-navigation/inertial-navigation/



Wind patterns have everything to do with coriolis effect, illustrated here- https://youtu.be/RT6WwNmDfEQ?t=396  Flat Earth theory has no explanation for trade winds, westerlies and easterlies- http://www.weatherwizkids.com/globalcirculation.gif

http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/reports/wxfacts/Coriolis-effect.htm ” In meteorology, the horizontal component of the Coriolis force is of primary importance, ”

American Meteorological Society- “The Coriolis force is defined as always acting perpendicular to the direction of motion; to the right in the Northern Hemisphere to explain rightward turning, and to the left in the Southern Hemisphere to describe leftward turning. It is all necessary because Earth turns!”

Hong Kong Observatory- “The apparent deflection of a moving air mass caused by the Earth’s rotation is called the Coriolis effect.” http://www.hko.gov.hk/education/edu01met/wxphe/ele_geostrophicwind_e.htm

Meteorology.  By Professor of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences University of Wisconsin-Madison –

“… in the midlatitudes, the Coriolis force is strong; thishas important implications for how we understand midlatitude weather.”  https://books.google.com/books?id=qWcrAQAAQBAJ&pg=PA186&lpg=PA186&dq=meteorology+coriolis&source=bl&ots=ZRA5-OutaD&sig=e6LQaXe049HYslMLDnHH2jhwqoU&hl=en&sa=X&ei=2n-PVYi3JMOoogSy_ofICA&ved=0CEEQ6AEwCDgK#v=onepage&q=meteorology%20coriolis&f=false

Univ of Illinois-  “As air moves from high to low pressure in the northern hemisphere, it is deflected to the right by the Coriolis force. ” http://ww2010.atmos.uiuc.edu/(Gh)/guides/mtr/fw/crls.rxml

OCEANOGRAPHY and CORIOLIS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_oceanography#Coriolis_effect

“Each successive layer of water underneath is effected further by the Coriolis effect (but the foward movement of water is less) creating an Ekman spiral”  http://science.kennesaw.edu/~jdirnber/oceanography/LecuturesOceanogr/LecCurrents/LecCurrents.html

“Winds drive surface currents in the ocean, and these currents are effected by the Coriolis effect. ”

A Laboratory Demonstration of Coriolis Effects on Wind-Driven ocean currents- http://www.tos.org/oceanography/archive/21-2_beesley.pdf

Oceanography: An Invitation to Marine Science – https://books.google.com/books?id=Bjx-BAAAQBAJ&pg=PT257&lpg=PT257&dq=coriolis+effect+oceanography&source=bl&ots=TDsHYsixbT&sig=RoJW3JzYyq8suS0-vDzN_9sZd2s&hl=en&sa=X&ei=8IKPVYinDY35oAS_8YZg&ved=0CDQQ6AEwBDgK#v=onepage&q=coriolis%20effect%20oceanography&f=false

geostrophic (“Earth turning”) currents.

http://www.britannica.com/science/ocean-current/Geostrophic-currents  “On a nonrotating Earth, water would be accelerated by a horizontal pressure gradient and would flow from high to low pressure. On the rotating Earth, however, the Coriolis force deflects the motion,”

Ocean in Motion: Geostrophic Flow Background-

“A balance develops between the Coriolis force and the force arising from the horizontal water pressure gradient such that surface currents flow parallel to the contours of elevation of sea level. This current is known as geostrophic flow.” http://oceanmotion.org/html/background/geostrophic-flow.htm

Coriolis and Ekman Transport, Penn State Dept of Geosciences,  https://www.e-education.psu.edu/earth540/content/c4_p3.html

TX A & M Univ- Geostrophic Equations- http://oceanworld.tamu.edu/resources/ocng_textbook/chapter10/chapter10_02.htm

Cornell Univ- http://www.geo.cornell.edu/ocean/p_ocean/ppt_notes/15_GeostrophicCurrents.pdf  “The force balance is between the centripetal force and Coriolis force”

Early Astronomer Described Coriolis Effect Centuries Before Coriolis http://www.technologyreview.com/view/422089/early-astronomer-described-coriolis-effect-centuries-before-coriolis/


Explaining the Coriolis Effect on the Tethered Satellite http://www.nasa.gov/audience/foreducators/topnav/materials/listbytype/Explaining_the_Coriolis_Effect.html

Orbital mechanics- http://physics.info/orbital-mechanics-1/  “Objects orbiting around L4 and L5 are stable because the Coriolis force keeps them spinning around the Lagrange point

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  1. Excellent expose. Flat Earth is a psy-op, plain and simple. It was designed to remove people from the growing awareness of massive corruption. What amazes me however, is how many people bought into the BS. The FE psy-op has caused numerous people to doubt ALL of science, which is totally insane.

    Thanks, for doing the hard work of exposing this fraud!


    • Hi, thanks for the comment. I put the original article up in June 2015 and have since added more commentary and videos. It was completely obvious to me in early 2015 what was going on with this whole thing. I am very open minded, if somebody presents a theory to me and is able to provide solid proof to support that theory I take it very seriously. I have looked at their so called “proofs” and none of it holds up under scrutiny. That’s the bottom line for me. So the whole “well you didn’t look into it enough”argument is bullshit to me personally, ah yeah I looked into it and nothing was brought to the table that convinced me that the Earth is flat. Period.

      I have received emails from flat Earthers whining about what I posted here but it is what it is, it’s a psyop. I will not debate people who make shit up and purposely push disinformation in order to advance a psyop and/or to make money.

      I’ve also received many emails from people who thanked me for putting this article up. They thought it was a good resource to share with other people. Some people were buying into the FE conjecture until they found this page and they woke up and realized they were being duped.

      As I mentioned at the top of this page, I really can’t see how a person can read through this entire article, watch all the videos, and walk away still thinking the Earth is flat. There are excellent videos embedded and linked to on this page that plainly rip the whole thing apart.

      I recommend checking out the below two posts and my comments in them as well.



      Thanks for checking the site out.


  2. Great article. I’m amazed at the gullibility of so many people taken in by the flat earth theory. Lmao. And I am sometimes gullible but also have studied science enough to mostly figure out so many of the theories are false. Yet many are true.

    I also read your article about the proposed Bill suggesting police in Virginia should all be secret
    No! It’s enough that there are so many undercovee cops. And I do see why they are necessary, but even they should have to wear hidden videocams because they should all be accountable. We are paying them to protect us, not terrorize us.

    Thanks for doing such a great job!

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    • Thanks for the comment. I call it flat Earth conjecture, it’s not a theory, and none of it is true.

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      • Of course. But some call it a theory. I never believed it because it’s so inane. And I have read about Aristotle and Galileo, amongst other things.

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      • Yeah well, a lot people don’t know anything about Aristotle and Galileo. A flat Earther would just dismiss those two people anyway.

        The newest spin flat Earther’s are putting on this is that it’s a psyop to awaken people. lol. First they wouldn’t admit it’s a psyop, but when it became more and more obvious that it is one flat Earthers now have to try to spin that in their favor and make it work for them…just like they do with everything else. Most people have a hard time grasping anything outside of simple stuff like how to turn a T.V. on and off, their heads explode if you try and explain the way the banking system works and how it controls a country’s economy, they have no clue about history, they can’t name the seven continents, they can’t name leaders of their own country (past or present), and they stare at their smart phones all day and watch T.V. and play video games. So flat Earthers are now saying elements in the intelligence community decided it was time to get the truth out about the flat Earth and let it roll out there via a psyop. Really? I guess so all of the apathetic dumbed down masses would now know the big secret…and not care. With education scores down in the dumps in America and several other countries, and the average IQ going down across the board, now was the the perfect time in history to let us in on the “big secret”. Unveil it to the same people who don’t know or care about anything outside of eating, drinking, breathing, and sleeping. Makes perfect sense.

        Back to reality, the flat Earth psyop is a multi pronged attack to divert attention from real issues, dumb people down even more, discredit real researchers, discredit other theories, divide people, label people, categorize people, track people, discredit historical figures or say they didn’t exist in order to rewrite history to push their agenda, and send people in circles so they doubt reality to the degree of being paranoid and delusional.

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      • Absolutely on target there, my friend. Luckily I had an extremely intelligent mom who raised me to question everything and always dig deeper, to do research and to not trust the government.

        The dumbing down project begun in the fifties has unfortunately been much too effective. It’s terribly sad.

        I have done my best to encourage all my kids to keep reading and to think for themselves. Only my youngest, who lives with his dad, has more of a mainstream attitude, a little football dude. Yet I doubt if even he would be gullible enough to buy the flat earth psyop.

        There sure are a lot of crazy speculations out there amongst the evidence of corruption and straight up lies being presented to the masses not only by the media but by history books.

        I was actually paddled for telling my fifth grade teacher Columbus was a murderer.

        If only we could walk into every office building, every church, every school and public meeting places and simply pull the wool off the sheeples’ eyes.

        The zombie apocalypse has already happened and now it’s time for awakening.

        I feel the frustration also. The pressure is real. I have to hold onto my crystals to walk amongst the sleeping masses actually.

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